Seriously, VIA train tickets are like "Here is cash" "Thank you move along". It's not like his ticket would have forced him onto the train when it moved. As if we'd be somewhat more secure if he'd had the ticket, dropped a bomb in the baggage carry and scarpered.
I sent something similar to this to the CBC, and am now looking for Dave Seglins email address!
JUST SO HE KNOWS
I bet they air it right away
I bet he says, "Sorry Ryan, you are right, this is not news and I am full of soggy shame"
I email *A* Dave Seglins, here's hoping it's the right one!
Hah! That would probably be up there with the most surreal emails this guy has ever got, *especially* if he's never heard of my comic.
I think it's more of a Utahraptor thing to say, but I submit that it is still a capitol idea.
city transit is like that here too. people ride all the time without tickets, but the fines for getting caught are simply not worth the risk.
... do they really want terrorist inspections at every bus/train door?
no they just want you to be afraid
2005-07-09 03:31 pm (UTC)
SHOCK as CBC Radio One Toronto has... NO REAL NEWS.
2005-07-09 05:03 pm (UTC)
Someday a reporter will kill someone, hide out for two weeks and then write an "exclusive Expose!" about how they didn't get caught.
that was the running gag on mr. show!
"making news, as it happens"
I once totally carried nail clippers onto the express train between Toronto and Montreal. Furthermore, somewhere around Kingston...
I TOTALLY CLIPPED MY NAILS WITH THEM.
Shhhhh! Ryan! Don't tell the world about sneaking onto the back of the buses! I've only been caught once so far, and I got off with a warning and a one-year "catch-you-again-and-we'll-charge-you-and-maybe-break-your-pass-flipping-finger" probation.
Never happens here in London, though, because they never open the back doors. Probably to stop damn university students from using their free passes to scam their way in. Also: because there are never more than three people getting on a bus at one time, unless you're on campus.
Ever since I got my lip ring (two weeks ago), I've been asked TWICE to come up to the front of the bus and show my pass. Never been asked before (in two years of using OCT), though. I think it's probably a coincidence, because I don't think you can even see my lip ring at such a distance!
The inspectors are out a lot more often, too: I think we were even shaken down on the 85 once.
Though I'd rather be on OC and have my pass checked than be on London Transit and take 70 minutes to travel 10km any day of the week.
i noticed when joey and i were on amtrak and via in may how easy it would be in a lot of places to get on without tickets. you can just get on the train and they take the ticket 15 minutes after you've left the station. to me, this means you could get on the train and then just sit in the bathroom til after the ticket taking process was over, or hang out in the lounge instead. to some maybe that means getting on a train and planting a bomb, but i dunno. if you're going to bomb a train, why risk it? why not buy a ticket to montreal for 112 dollars?
also: if you want to blow something up with lots of people on it, why are you on a via rail train?
this is totally normal for LOTS of trains
On Amtrak, at least the Amtrak trains I have ridden, they take your ticket, but they also put a tag above your seat saying where you got on and where you are getting off. I suppose one COULD sit in the dining car (where they don't "tag" you) and then get off wherever. I wonder if that could work? I also heard some amtrak employees talking about congress shutting down the amtrak system (for long range at first) in the US. Apparently they think the economy would be better off if people were forced to buy cars and ride on planes.....I somehow got way off topic here....sorry.
On the Long Island Railroad in New York you can ride it sometimes and not get asked for your ticket. I always hold on to the ticket so I can get some use out of it later if I'm ever asked for it.
Ugh. I hope they don't start going security-crazy at Via. I really enjoyed riding the train this summer precisely because it was so much more humane than flying. I hate being always-already a suspect.
I rode the bus from NYC to Boston and when I got off there was this annoyed lady at the bus station, bitching on and on about how the security wasn't safe like at airports there. I was like DAMN, HO!
*bangs head against wall*
2005-07-09 07:04 pm (UTC)
Re: Dear CBC
This is much more well-written than the letter I dashed off! Did you send it to them?
You should, if you haven't already! I hope I got the right Dave with my email, but how many Dave Seglins are there associated with CBC radio? Hopefully: one!
2005-07-09 05:44 pm (UTC)
If I was going to blow something up, it sure wouldn't be a VIA train. But only because they look cool and I'd feel bad about blowing up a cool-looking train.
Also: "Some commuters into Toronto also noticed no extra security."
Why the fuck would there be any need extra security on long-distance trains in Toronto because there were bombs on the subway and a bus half a world away? Ugh.
$10 says that the reporter was just catching the train without a ticket, got busted, and suddenly brainwaved himself out of it with the testing-the-security-of-public-transport-angle.
"Sir, may I see your ticket?"
"HA, see? No. Got you. Cuz, uh... terrorism?"
CBC seems to be bad for this thing lately, in my experience.
A few weeks back, a Canjet plane flew with an unpressurized cabin, but flew at a lower altitude because of a mechanical issue. This is normal and acceptable by Transport Canada.
Some people complained about ears popping and whatnot.
While Canjet probably should have just canned the flight, and no doubt made a bunch of errors in judgement (a big bunch!), but the CBC made it look like the trip was a trip from hell and whatnot, while I suspect few actually really cared, and were more annoyed by the delays and having to land at another airport and stuff (I think this was weather related.)
They interviewed a little girl at the end, who Canjet bussed up, instead of flying the rest of the way. They asked her if she was happy she bussed the rest of the way instead of flying. She said yes, because the flight was "boring", she didn't give a damn about her ears popping. So they just lead her on until she did.
Of course it's easy to get on public transit! It's public transit.
THANK YOU. This is going on in my city, also. Madness. STUPID madness, which is worse.
Also: how the hell is beefing ticket-security going to make any difference to a sucicide bomber? This point has perhaps been made already?
There seems to be an underlying smugness about it not-having-happened-here-yet, also. Damn news. Useless.
It is the CBC. Honestly, domestic policy is very, very boring.
a story this
long is prominent on the same page, and just look at the national
page! most of it is news about other countries. Yes, stupid stuff like this is being sensationalized, but then again, if something THAT moronic can make front page news, perhaps it is a good thing. I would rather groan at pathetic stories like this then, say, read about a shooting. i agree, though, that this is the lowest form of reporting.
I figured out three ways through our "stringent" security here at Liverpool this morning, and at least one of them's airtight and not a result of some delusion of mine!
Tomorrow, I'm bringing a book in so I won't have to entertain myself in this fashion any further.
Heh, I saw a similar post recently on some New Jerseyan website about the NJ trains that go into New York City... It was a letter written to New Jersey Transit. The person was like "no one ever checks my ticket. what's with all the rate hikes? is there a connection? HMMMM?"